03 Jun
Posted by Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com as Make Money Blogging, Making Money Blogging, Marketing
[NOTE TO MY EMOTIONALLY SENSITIVE, EASILY OFFENDED READERS: This Post Contains the word “Pee”. Yes, I do know the word “urinate” is much less offensive. You do not need to email me. If that offends you then you have a choice. You can either be offended and poor or read the frickin’ article and make some money.]
Do your subscribers pee all over your business?
By “pee” I mean: Complaining that you don’t provide enough free stuff, not buying products and services you recommend and not coming by nearly often enough? Are they “bad dogs”?
First, let’s get something clear:
But your subscribers are not buying things from you. Even when you ask. Nicely. Several times.
Instead they whine, cry and pee in the corner. And you have to clean up their mess.
Just like a dog who pees on the carpet. ANY healthy dog can be taught to NOT pee on the carpet. If your dog pees on the carpet then it has been poorly trained.
And guess what? If your subscribers love free stuff and never buy anything that costs them some coin, it is because you have poorly trained your subscribers.
But imagine Wal-Mart using this strategy.
Sam Walton looks down from his position as God’s CEO (get it, he’s dead so he’s in heaven). He decides to send out the regular weekly flyer, but instead of filling it with products he wants to sell, he fills it with products he is going to give away free this week. The stores are flooded with eager shoppers freebie seekers.
He does the same for a couple more weeks. “After all,” he reasons, “I am so popular with all these people who have been getting my free stuff that they will certainly come back and pay for the products they love.”
So this week he sends out a sales flyer with his trademark “Low, Low Prices”. The doors are opened and…
Now it would be foolish for Wal-Mart to do such a thing. That’s obvious. But what about you, Einstein? Does it make sense for your business either? Yeah, I thought so.
Second, tell them you are going to sell them things before you sell them things.
Yup, tell them. Tell them you are going to “only point out the very best products for them to buy.” Remind them “of course you know I can’t give away everything for free or I’d be out of business.” (Well, that’s if you live in the US. If you live in Canada translate the “out” to “oot”.)
On Friday, June 27th you need to spend $5 to join my private membership site. There, I just did it. Unless you are extremely poor or extremely dumb you will join this site. It will cost you $5. Did I mention you need to spend $5 with me on June 27?
Third, when you actually tell them to buy something, remind them what a good guy you are–unless you’re a girl. In that case remind them of what a good gal you are. Like this:
You know how I’ve always shown you the very best resources–most of them free. Here is a tremendous resource. It’s not free, but it will make you so much money it’s worth ten times what you’re about to invest in it.
For details go here. Do it. Now.
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21 Responses
Mark
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
1Aaron;
Another great post.
Guess it is time for me to clean my carpets.
Seriously, there is a lot of talk about “moving the free line” out there right now. These guys like Eben Pagan argue that you should actually give more stuff away for free. I guess that is actually what you do on your blog — right? You create lots of “free stuff” opt-in opportunities.
So are you really saying give away tons of free stuff on your blog to get opt-ins but sell to your list (and be up-front about it)?
Thanks,
Mark
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm
2“Moving the free line” became necessary online because we trained people to believe everything online needed to be free.
The problem comes when you never subtly or otherwise tell them they need to spend some money. They need to be mentally prepared to spend money with you even if they don’t spend money with anyone else.
When you tell them they are about to spend money, they are prepared to spend money. Ideally you convince them to only spend money on your say-so.
Eben tells people all the time to spend money. His free stuff works well to convince others of the value of his paid stuff.
Mark
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:15 pm
3OK — that makes sense.
So, when is the best time to start telling them that? On the “Thank You” page for the opt-in. Or, should you tell them before they opt-in to get a more qualified list?
Thanks!
Mark
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
4I’ve never tested “when” is the best time to tell your list. I try to give lots of free value up front, but typically I put a dollar value on the “free” as well as pre-selling everything I will be selling in the future.
Like when you need to spend $4.95 on June 27th. You’ve got almost four weeks to save your lunch money since I’ve given you ample notice.
Mark
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
5Well, it’s a good point that you make, because in my mind I have already spent the $4.95. You can list me as charter customer #1.
Regards,
Mark
Forest
June 3rd, 2008 at 7:13 pm
6Me too, I am a new customer….. I know most of my 10 subscribers…. don’t think they will be buying anything just yet
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 3rd, 2008 at 7:51 pm
7Mark,
Thanks for planning to buy.
Forest,
Thanks for planning to buy too.
But about your subscribers…
Try pre-selling them. Start telling them the details you get from me. Be honest about what you think and know and what you don’t know. Are you skeptical? Tell them. Do you wonder what this might be? Let them know too. Let them take the journey with you.
I’ll bet your 35 feed readers will follow you when you choose to sign up. (And 35 subscribers will be worth $7,500 smackers–not too shabby!)
shane at making-money-blogging
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:33 pm
8Aaron you are quite something else. Oh and by the way we canuks dont say “oot”
But yeah I am at this point as well I’ve given away all kinds of free content particularly in the areas how to find a niche area and some adsense optimization tips for higher click through rates in the hopes of getting links and organic traffic. But it hasnt “really” PAID OFF yet.
WHich brings up another point I was thinking about after the last meeting. I would go so far as to say its a million dollar idea but at what point do you decide when to stop posting some types of content and start packaging it for sale. I was thinking about pulling those posts and e-booking them.
BTW posted this article on my blog its a good one.
P.S I have something for the group as it regards the last meeting. Dont know how to get it to them so watch your email
Forest
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
9I just realized you said PEE!!!! That is it, I’m not reading anymore until you wash your mouth out with soap.
Piss Biscuit
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:07 pm
10@ Aaron: I love the word pee! Okay actually “Piss” but it’s all the same I guess. This is a first time read for me, but I’ve enjoyed it. I’m going to subscribe and I promise not to “pee” on you.
Leslie
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:11 pm
11Hi there Aaron
This is a really interesting post. It’s something I’ve been struggling with for a while. I have a “niche blog” up on my area of professional expertise (language teaching) and what you have to say here is, in one way, EXTREMELY relevant for me (and people in similar online spaces/niches), and on the other I feel that there’s something you’ve overlooked or not fully considered. Let me elaborate by way of example:
In the “making money” space (online or otherwise), your subscribers should more or less EXPECT you to be making offers to them. I’m sure they don’t in many cases. And I’ve unsubscribed from more lists than I care to remember because the list-owner just saw their list as a pitch-conduit, offering very little (or in some cases NOTHING) of value. Just thin “recommendation” after thin “recommendation”.
I am, however, still on a number of lists where the person pitches me on stuff now and then but rather than simply being a relentless barrage of product offers, there is useful information that I can apply to my online endeavours, including (short) free reports, links to useful (free or low-cost (and non-affiliate) resources, links to useful blog posts (on their blog or someone else’s)… and so on.
One such person is Paul Myers: http://www.talkbiznews.com
Another is Michael Campbell: http://www.internetmarketingsecrets.com
Another is Marlon Sanders: http://www.marlonsnews.com/
And another is Tony Laidig: http://publicdomainblog.com/
The first two are ESSENTIAL reading!
The second and third are only if you’re interested in creating your own products–with the third specifically focusing on public domain content to do so.
So, anyway, when the pitches come, I at least read through the recommendation. And if it sounds useful to me, I might go and take a gander at the salespage. This is kinda Marketing101, innit? These list-owners I refer to have built up a “track-record” with me. They’ve shown me that they really are interested in HELPING others. And sometimes those “helping” resources cost money (and mostly they make a commission for recommending them) and sometimes they don’t.
As I said, Marketing101, but I’m surprised by the number of list-owners who still don’t seem to get this. The sad thing is, though, they’re probably making tons of money! Ha! And if they are, then my somewhat moral-highground advice here SHOULD, actually, be ignored in its entirety. (I’m sure they’ll still sleep okay at night)
BUT… in the non making money space, things might actually be a little different. And this is where I think you’ve overlooked an important element in your post, Aaron.
“Moving the free line” might be fine in the make money space because people can generally see that if the free stuff has great value, then the paid stuff will/should add money to their bottom line (Case in point: Eben Pagan’s stuff, as Aaron pointed out in one of the comments, above).
But what I’ve found with my “non-business/make-money related niche” stuff (not to say that this is true of all non-make-money niches, coz I know it’s not), is that the culture of “free stuff” is just SOOOOOO prominent online thesedays, that “moving the free line” just ends up with a bunch of freebie seekers on my lists who don’t even bother to interact or do anything–despite my “training” efforts (just as you outlined in your superb WalMart example, dude.)
Okay, it could be that my content is just rubbish! I’m quite sure it’s not, but I’m not joking. Maybe it actually IS to readers/subscribers/visitors. It may not be tosh to me, but maybe it is to THEM. That’s something for anyone reading this who “feels my pain” here to consider.
IS your content actually any good?
When I started the language teaching site, I offered some lesson plans and stuff as an opt-in bribe. Got some really good feedback on them. People liked them, they were useful, blah blah, blah… Then silence. Almost no comments on my blog posts. No responses to questions in email. Nothin.
I get reasonable organic traffic each day despite backing off on input and doing no promo at all for that site—while I concentrate on some things that actually put money in my bank account—(I check my stats for Uniques and Returnings, of course), but no one is interested in even COMMENTING let alone BUYING anything!
I track my links, too. Not even clicking on links to recommended stuff. It’s a bit pathetic, really.
I have this sneaky suspicion that my initial traffic was “low quality traffic” in the sense that it WAS targetted, just not targetted as tightly to my specific “sub-niche” as it should have been. I’ve since shut that autoresponder down so now I’m getting people who just find the site in the SERPs.
Yet, despite having an interactively-designed autoresponder sequence set up, I’m still not getting anything back. Echo… echo… echo…
I’ve also heard it said many times by people who’ve been in the game a long time that “some markets just won’t buy”. Coould be that I’m in one of those markets.
Are YOU?
Thank you for your reminder, Aaron, as well as some useful tips. I’ll put them into action–along with some other ideas I have–to try and rescucitate the site I’ve mostly been referring to here.
But the “take away” (as the teleseminar-loving pitch-meisters like to say in an effort to reinforce the “value”, the “meat”, of the call… Read: thin slice of useful information they traded for your hour’s worth of attention so as to be able to pitch you at the beginning, (sometimes) pitch you in the middle, and then definitely “offer you” an extended “opportunity to further invest in your education” at the end)… the take-away for readers here is:
Aaron’s advice here is good and the reminder that we’re IN BUSINESS is, of course, 100% correct. But our subscribers/readers/visitors couldn’t care less whether we’re in business or not.
(Read that again).
So what this means is that in a B2B kind of space (such as this blog), “training your subscribers” as Aaron suggest is absolutely necessary to do.
It’s also necessary in non-make-money niches, but you might be pissing in the wind in some cases (Oh no! I said “pee!”). So if that’s the case, what then (short of just getting out)?
Any ideas folks? Or am I just talking bollocks? (Oh no! I said “hairy ball sack”!)
Cheers,
Leslie
P.S. @Shane… You remember that add for, I think it was Labatt Blue, in which the guy was standing on stage with the Canukian flag behind him on a big screen and he defiantly declares “..and THIS is “aboot!” holding up a gumboot? ;-P
P.P.S. Apologies for such a stupendously long comment; got a bit carried away!
P.P.P.S. Aaron, I ** cringe ** ASSUME you’re joking with the “Warning” at the beginning of this post, right?
Lightening@Lightenings Blogworld
June 4th, 2008 at 4:13 am
12I’m really hungry right now. Did you have to mention LUNCH money????
You should stop making so much SENSE Aaron. :/
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 4th, 2008 at 7:30 am
13Shane,
They don’t say “oot”, eh?
Forest,
I actually tried washing my keyboard out with soap. It didn’t come out very well.
Piss,
Thanks for playing along! Now go buy something through one of my affiliate links.
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 4th, 2008 at 8:18 am
14Leslie,
Thanks for taking time to make a thoughtful comment.
Getting comments is a funny thing–it’s like starting an avalanche. You get a few comments, then other “lurkers” start commenting.
I have also found search visitors are much less likely to comment on their first visit.
And I agree–our visitors/readers/subscribers don’t care that we are in business, they want to know what’s in it for them, not us. Good point.
And, no, you’re not just talking “bollocks.”
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 4th, 2008 at 8:19 am
15Lightening,
Stop making sense? You guys should all be hanging on every word that comes out of my mouth. Yeah, I’m that good. Now go buy something from me. Or just send me money directly.
Mark
June 4th, 2008 at 11:26 am
16OK — Clearly what is needed here is a shock collar for customer. I’ll throw up a sales page at http://www.shock-collar-marketing.com
Mark
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 4th, 2008 at 11:33 am
17LOL
Diane
June 4th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
18Been doing this for over a decade, and we do very well. Always looking to do better of course. Your advice is spot on, and I believe Leslie makes a very valid point. Do you communicate (or the lack thereof) with people just holding out their hands wanting hand outs? Or people who are serious about building a business online. While 100% of the people would like to believe they fall into the second category, that is so far from the truth… well it’s not funny.
It’s unfortunate, but most abdicate complete responsibility yet look around for someone else to blame for their lack of success. Our blog is stuffed to the brim, and overflowing, with information - solid, useful, proven marketing and advertising methods. It’s also very new, but gaining steadily in popularity (it’s a branch off of several very successful businesses we do online and only started in February as a come-to resource).
While it does take time to establish yourself online - and time must be a considered factor - I do appreciate your dog training analogy - made me smile!
Side Question: Ready to do our thing for you at the end of June, but when I used the link (clickbank) it just took me to the post that I’d read. Do you have a multiple tier somehow set up in CB? I thought they were single level. So I do not quite understand how we’d get credit ahead of the launch for sending people your way. If you’d clarify this for us, we’d be very grateful
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 4th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
19Diane,
Thanks for the comment.
Part of the “infrastructure” I have is a free report on how to start from nothing (literally) and make money online. When I get contacted by someone who has no money and wants me to help them for free I give them the free report. Then it’s up to them.
This lets me be caring about their plight, but not spend hours giving away my time to someone who may not put it to work anyway.
About how your commissions will be paid…
When you send me a subscriber I save your ClickBank ID along with their name and email address. When I begin promoting the private members site I will be sending them an email WITH YOUR AFFILIATE LINK. That way you get the commission when they join you at the site.
It is explained here:
http://www.FullTiltBlogging.com/blog/?p=289
Yoga Kat
June 6th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
20Aaron and Leslie. Great post and great response. Goood points raised by each. Both of you thank you for sharing your wisdom, and business sense.
Here is my thought and question. I have a couple of niche lists. One with aweber that is yoga and spiritual related for adults and one that is related to parents of yoga and spiritual children. Articles and video content galore, recoommendations but no sales. That first list has 343 subscribers. The second has only 11. but I have another 90 class participants who want to be included in my mailing, and 67 people who wrote to me about advice about certain scams that I posted about.
I have a business e-zine also with aweber also with tons of article and content for newbies. I plan to turn this one into a business blog, and there is no website. and I can only manage to retain 23 subscribers. It has documented about 242 people who came in and eventually unsubscribed. ( so still 23) On this list I received notice of a a referral commission of $124. but still have to wait 30 days to get it.
I’m a self published author in a spiritual how to guide. (Only sold appoximately 99 in two years.) Created a-ebook and paper back out of it, have 2 CD of Affirmations I created. Offer free reports, and articles and have 15 mini video on youtube and myspace, yahoo, currentTV etc.
But it’s so frustrating, because to do all these steps I have spent about $15,000 on training, acquiring knowledge, the lastest gimmicks, e-zine ads, marketing, press releases, radio ads, product creation, book publishing, this great opportunity and that one and even Herbal Life, and Forever Living products, and without about $200 a month coming in or nothing at all.
Needless to say I’m desperate and can’t spend another dime (well maybe the five dollars) on learning. What I need right now is to earn at LEAST $2500 and more like $7500 for every month for the the next 90 days. How can I make money tomorrow and the next and so on for the next 90 days. I can’t have another year of no results.
I want to adopt a child and that has a huge price tag. I’m Ms Creative, and work my butt off writing and posting, and I STILL have this huge credit card debt, my student loans, three years at least of online experience, and no where near where I wanted to be, to deal with these adoption expenses.
Do you know what? There is no winning here! I’m just a pawn in the online marketers game to make their mortgage payment, and for them to take their damn beautiful trip on some richy rich’s yacht, and as the littlest pee on, I get to view his/her gorgeous glammed out pictures of them sailing around the freaking port of what ever call they want!!!
I can’t wait another six months. I can’t even wait another 90 days with no money. You got me? You feel me? Ain’t nothing but a mongrel hiding in a pure breed’s body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uggghhh.. Yoga Kat.
Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com
June 6th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
21Yoga Kat,
I will send you a private email.
For everyone else who may be in a similar situation–check out this post:
http://www.FullTiltBlogging.com/blog/?p=279
And get access to the password protected post.
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